Archive for October 16, 2008

Lodge 188: More Chapter Events Patches?

Posted in Itibapishe Iti Hollo 188,SR-5 Lodges by John E. Pannell on October 16th, 2008 at 5:02 am
Itibapishe Iti Hollo 188 Anson District/Chapter eR1976?
Itibapishe Iti Hollo 188 Anson District/Chapter eR1976?

There has been some discussion among patch collectors lately over what makes a patch an OA issue.   While this is usually pretty straightforward with lodge issues, the distinction often becomes murky with chapter and events patches.     I plan to discuss this in a future post.

With that in mind I put forward two patches that might be chapter event patches from Itibapishe Iti Hollo lodge.     In some respects these appear to be OA items, but at the same time a good case can be made for them being district events patches.   I do not have any good contacts in this lodge that can decisively attest to nature of these items.

The first item is pictured at the top of this post.   At first glance it would appear to be just a camporee patch from Anson District.   Notice that neither the council or lodge is named on the patch.     However, the use of the “WWW” leads one to believe the lodge had something to do with this.   Is this a chapter item or not?

Itibapishe Iti Hollo 188 Concord District/Chapter eX1987?
Itibapishe Iti Hollo 188 Concord District/Chapter eX1987?

The next item, pictured to the right, might appear to be just another event patch from the Concord District.     However, note the inclusion of “O.A.” to the left of the tipi.   In my opinion, it’s hard to make a convincing argument that this is not an Order of the Arrow issue of some sort.   What other likely explanation would there be for “O.A.” to be included on the patch if it wasn’t an OA issue?

Several other patches from this district/chapter are already shown on my site.

The use of the word “district” instead of “chapter” on these patches is problematic.     There are two other chapter pieces from this lodge that were included in the last Blue Book (2006).   Both of these are from Rowan chapter, and are labeled on the patches as such.   A third patch is shown on my site as an event issue but says “Rowan District“.

Considering these to be OA items, the listing data for these two piece would be as follows:

Chapter Issue Bdr Color/Type Bkgd Name fdl/BSA Comments
Anson eR1976? YEL R LBL RED Anson District Camporee Winter 76
Concord eX1987? RED R WHT RED BLK fdl; 1987 Deep Freeze
Itibapishe Iti Hollo 188 page on OAImages.com

It would be helpful if someone from lodge 188, or very familiar with the lodge’s activities in the 1970s and 1980s would step forward here. Can anyone confirm what these various patches are? Can anyone explain them or why various OA related design elements and words were used if they are not OA issues?

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